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the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort of automatic cuts that we see as a sequester, and the tax increases and have a mechanism you can replace them with. listen to the congressional leaders in their photo op in the white house before thanksgiving that they had today. >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> we have a cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. >> we fully understand
the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort...
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house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. >> national journal reports wisconsin congressman and former vp hopeful paul ryan will remain house budget committee chairman after being granted a gop waiver to avoid being term limited out of that spot. >>> senate majority leader harry reid lashed out at massachusetts senator scott brown mocking brown's calls for bipartisanship as a joke, describing brown as one of the most partisan senators ever to serve. >>> we now know which political office may be sought by another member of the bush family, george p. bush. his father, former florida governor jeb bush, confirms in a letter to potential donors that
house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world....
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boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles. who along with alan simpson created the simpson-bowles plan on deficit reduction. i have to start by asking you, did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles simpson since everybody knows him by his initials here in washington. >> so, when you talk about things, sacred cows, untouchables, whatever the word might be, in your proposal, the one paul ryan decided not to back, the one barack obama decided not to back, you had an increase in the federal gasoline tax. caps on mortgage interest. charitable donations and retirement contributions. these were all tough choices you made. you also increased the eligibility age for medicare and social security. reduced benefits for wealthier seniors. some of those things i've heard democrats and republicans say they agree on, others they loathe them. is there anything that should b
boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles. who along with alan simpson created the simpson-bowles plan on deficit reduction. i have to start by asking you, did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles simpson since everybody knows him by his initials here in washington. >> so, when you talk about things, sacred cows,...
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john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the tax cuts expire. the president and democrats propose a bill to restore the tax cuts to all but the top bracket and the republicans say, no, no, no. we don't want to do that. we have to restore the tax cuts to the rich people. they don't want to be in that situation, they can't let themselves get in that situation. >> which is why, i think you saw john boehner come out pretty aggressively this week and say he's open to a compromise. the key word in his statement and the statement he made before the election was tax rates. he doesn't want to see the rates go up.
john boehner didn't want to have any type of grand bargain. he wants to wait for the new congress to be seated. how you do a temporary punt. obama has the leverage. he won re-election. so where we go from here, i think you are going to see a lot of political games next week when congress comes back to town. potentially, we go deep into december. >> the president is holding most of the cards here, he won re-election and the republicans are absolutely terrified of going over the cliff. the...
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john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >> delighted to be here. >> you predicted thi
john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are...
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and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate has already passed a bill that does what the president wants to do in taxation. it reduces the taxation below the top rates and the house can either pass that bill or not pass it. and if they don't pass it, what will happen in terms of january 1st ratgoing up is on them. >> it's on them. the president said in his remarks today that you know, his plan's not written in stone. the one he campaigned on. he's willing to hear any good idea from anyone. but it's unclear whether john boehner is going to be able to come to the table with an alternative idea that they can hammer out in time for a
and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate...
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it's like john boehner agreed to in priest negotiations. other members saying hey, we can cut a deal. the key, the republicans move that way on taxes. what will the president deliver on entitlements? that is boehner's bottom line he can't move off of it. he has the get something real on spending. >> bret: that is what republicans never saw in hardcore, on papeer the last negotiations. >> house republicans are skeptical they'll see anything significant about it now or the short term. what is more likely is a short-term compromise and revisit broader tax reform, sometime down the line. they are trying to get out in front of what they see is inevitable. they want to avoid the tax rate that. they see is punitive. and so they are trying to get ahead of that. being open and signaling publicly, celebrateing they're open to additional revenues they come without increases in rates. i don't know if it will end up in a compromise but they will incyst on seeing more from the white house. >> the first back and forth, though, promising? >> it is. each si
it's like john boehner agreed to in priest negotiations. other members saying hey, we can cut a deal. the key, the republicans move that way on taxes. what will the president deliver on entitlements? that is boehner's bottom line he can't move off of it. he has the get something real on spending. >> bret: that is what republicans never saw in hardcore, on papeer the last negotiations. >> house republicans are skeptical they'll see anything significant about it now or the short term....
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i think john boehner was very clear that everything is on the table with respect to revenue reductions -- revenue increases as well as spending reductions, but there are certain things that aren't. and i think what john boehner said is right, we should not be increasing tax rates on businesses in america. so i think you're going to look at it from the standpoint of can we tighten the tax code, limit deductions? there are things we can do to simplify the code that will result in more revenue because it will result in more growth. i think republicans absolutely should put those things on the table and revenue certainly should be part of the deal. >> some people are blaming you for mitt romney's failure, and i'll explain to you why. >> i wish i had such power here that i could be blamed for these things. >> allow me to elaborate. what they're saying is if he hadn't been pushed into fairly right wing quite extreme positions in his battle against the likes of you early this year for the public nominee race, then he wouldn't have gotten himself in this unholy mess of being branded against wo
i think john boehner was very clear that everything is on the table with respect to revenue reductions -- revenue increases as well as spending reductions, but there are certain things that aren't. and i think what john boehner said is right, we should not be increasing tax rates on businesses in america. so i think you're going to look at it from the standpoint of can we tighten the tax code, limit deductions? there are things we can do to simplify the code that will result in more revenue...
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not the president who is the problem it's john boehner's lack of control of his own party. jon: you hear john boehner telling the president to show some leadership. >> i hope he goes to his caucus and is able to corral them. >> if you want economic growth you lower taxes. jon: julie and monica, thank you. >> thank you. jon: and we'll be right back. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. jon: a fox news alert now on a deadly train crash at a parade honoring our nation's heroes. the images from midland, texas, where police say a freight train slammed into a parade float carrying wounded veterans. four people were killed. more than a dozen others injured. casey seeing fell live in midland, texas, with more on this tragedy. casey? >> reporter: yeah, jon, union pacific railroad spo
not the president who is the problem it's john boehner's lack of control of his own party. jon: you hear john boehner telling the president to show some leadership. >> i hope he goes to his caucus and is able to corral them. >> if you want economic growth you lower taxes. jon: julie and monica, thank you. >> thank you. jon: and we'll be right back. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it...
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and election results are barely dry and john boehner and president obama buting heads. key disagreements are whether taxes should be raised on wealthy americans. neither seem willing to compromise on that. >> and a pair of college basketball was cancelled because the floor was not in ship shop. florida left georgia in half time. there was so much condeization on the floor the game was cancelled. >> and over the next few weeks, top republicans are taking a closer look at what went wrong in the election cycle and how to fix it they are talking to donors and house majority leader john boehner said there is no tea party to speak of anymore. does the republican party need to change the image joining us now is shawn and amy. welcome to the woth of - both of you. i know it is it a disappointing week that you are reacting tompt there is it a lot of soul senching going on saying that the republican party need toz get a grip and take a look at where it missed the mark in the past election, shawn, a lot of the folks are upset that the republican party did not factor in the real vi
and election results are barely dry and john boehner and president obama buting heads. key disagreements are whether taxes should be raised on wealthy americans. neither seem willing to compromise on that. >> and a pair of college basketball was cancelled because the floor was not in ship shop. florida left georgia in half time. there was so much condeization on the floor the game was cancelled. >> and over the next few weeks, top republicans are taking a closer look at what went...
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house speaker john boehner offered a compromise in week in which he says i am willing to put more revenue on to the table but with through closing deductions end gd loopholes not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of the whole deal that doesn't raise the push tax rate on the wealthy? >> how much revenue are we going to generate as part of a balanced package. in their framework they assume the amount of revenue as if we started tax reform from a 39 percent rate. that is part of their built in assumption. i am all for doing tax reform. the issue is from what starting point. i think the bowl starting point which assumies that revenue fro 39 percent is the right way to go to get the mix they got in hitting their deficit reduction target. if what speaker boehner was saying he was truly willing to get office ready we begin to work with one another. if what he is simply saying is what republicans used to say which is we are going to lower rate on the wealthy and that will somehow generate -- >> he was talking about closing loopholes and deductions. >> the jury is out stil
house speaker john boehner offered a compromise in week in which he says i am willing to put more revenue on to the table but with through closing deductions end gd loopholes not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of the whole deal that doesn't raise the push tax rate on the wealthy? >> how much revenue are we going to generate as part of a balanced package. in their framework they assume the amount of revenue as if we started tax reform from a 39 percent rate....
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boehner at this point to simply pass the senate bill and if nothing is done it's on speaker john boehner not on the president, whether or not the tax cuts expire on january 1. >> but at the end of the day, it will be the american people that are hurt. yes, there is a bill in the senate, and yes, boehner could pass it, but he says that he does not want to raise taxes and the congressional budget office says, kelly, if we do what the republicans want us to do it will increase economic growth by 1.5%. if we do what president obama wants us to do and what she just mentioned, it would raise economic growth by 1.25%, so it's more than just tax cuts, it's more than just tax increases, we have to actually reform entitlement programs. there's a lot that needs to be done before january 1st. >> kelly: what say you about this? is angela right, 1.5%, i understand it could be as high as 1.7% if they find agreement. >> number one thing we need to focus on, while the country elected the same congress and everyone is taking their old positions, democrats have new leverage and they have the power in this
boehner at this point to simply pass the senate bill and if nothing is done it's on speaker john boehner not on the president, whether or not the tax cuts expire on january 1. >> but at the end of the day, it will be the american people that are hurt. yes, there is a bill in the senate, and yes, boehner could pass it, but he says that he does not want to raise taxes and the congressional budget office says, kelly, if we do what the republicans want us to do it will increase economic...
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gregg: so, steve is john boehner right or crystal right. >> john boehner gets an a in economics. he's precisely right. a large percentage of the income that barack obama wants to tax at the higher rate is small business income. the other part of it that the speaker didn't mention is the other big component of that income is investment income the money that the people put into the small businesses to create them in the first place. doug knows this very well that one of the big problems we have in the economy right now is businesses aren't inch investigating, they are not expand -lg your operations. can you think of a worst time to raise the tax rate on investment when investment went negative in the last quarter? if businesses are not investing they can't hire more workers and i agree with doug it could cause a ou double-dip recession. gregg: if you force higher income americans to pay more in taxes not through increasing their tax rates but rather closing the loopholes, deductions, credits and so on and so forth, that is still a net increase on that important sector. so how is th
gregg: so, steve is john boehner right or crystal right. >> john boehner gets an a in economics. he's precisely right. a large percentage of the income that barack obama wants to tax at the higher rate is small business income. the other part of it that the speaker didn't mention is the other big component of that income is investment income the money that the people put into the small businesses to create them in the first place. doug knows this very well that one of the big problems we...
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and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean, that's just an amazing, amazing, amazing switch from where we even were on the campaign trail last week. >> well, that's right, luke. and also governor bob mcdonnell said something else. elections have consequences and that, of course, was a line republicans used in 2011 during the debt ceiling negotiations as well as all of the other times they were actually trying to trim the budget deficit saying, look, this is why we were elected in 2010 to come and do this. now president obama has that same argument in 2012. look, the presidential contest was fought on the contours of raising taxes on the wealthy.
and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean,...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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in the last 24 hours, newly relie detectorred president barak obama and house speaker john boehner have both vowed that they will not let this happen. but is that even possible given today's decisive political climate? before we get into the discussion, let's first listen to what both men had to say. >> this is an opportunity for the president to lead. this is his moment. >> i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges, but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> arthel: let's talk about it now. matt is the former white house political director under president george w. bush. alexis is the executive director for the american values institute. good to see both of you. >> great to be here. >> arthel: very good. so let's say that each of you is going to broker this deal. tell me the concessions you would make and what would be the deal breakers. i'm going to go with you first, matt. >> okay. so i'm in the seat of power. i guess if i'm a republican, i want to make sure that if i'm going to negotiate a deal that i've got real concessions in terms of getting a comprehensive
in the last 24 hours, newly relie detectorred president barak obama and house speaker john boehner have both vowed that they will not let this happen. but is that even possible given today's decisive political climate? before we get into the discussion, let's first listen to what both men had to say. >> this is an opportunity for the president to lead. this is his moment. >> i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges, but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced....
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john boehner is pulled by two groups. one he does not want to be obstructionist not to allow tax cuts for lower group to go through and doesn't want tax cuts to go through. he is pulled on that side and by his own party. what i hope is that the vast majority of the republicans hold true and if some of the republicans peel off, i would, that would be fine. if they pushed through obama's bill, but i do not want to see them punished. but the republicans need to have this position for 2014 and the rest of 2013 when the economy goes in the garbage dump. republicans are right. bill: two more quick questions on this. >> sure. bill: when these congressional leaders speak, what sort of code words should we be listening for today? >> well i don't know what they would say to each other but on the outside, using the word rates left revenues and that type of stuff are code words especially coming from the president. if he talks about raising revenues and does not insist on it being rates there is a good compromise possible. if he forc
john boehner is pulled by two groups. one he does not want to be obstructionist not to allow tax cuts for lower group to go through and doesn't want tax cuts to go through. he is pulled on that side and by his own party. what i hope is that the vast majority of the republicans hold true and if some of the republicans peel off, i would, that would be fine. if they pushed through obama's bill, but i do not want to see them punished. but the republicans need to have this position for 2014 and the...
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congressman van hollen, john boehner offered a compromise this week where he said yes, i am willing to put more revenue on the table but through closing deductions, ending loopholes, not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of this whole deal that doesn't raise the bush tax rate on the wealthy? >> well, here is the issue. how much revenue are we going to generate part of a balanced package? i take my lead on this from simpson-bowles and their framework. in their framework, they assume the amount of revenue as if you started tax reform from a 3% rate. that is part -- 39% rate. that's part of their built-in assumption. i am all for doing tax reform. the issue is from what starting point. the simpson-bowles starting point which assumes the revenue from 39% is the right way to go to get the mix that they got in hitting their deficit reduction target. but look, if what the speaker boehner was saying is that he is truly willing to get what we consider congressional budget office revenue, we can work with one another. if what he is saying is what a lot of republicans use
congressman van hollen, john boehner offered a compromise this week where he said yes, i am willing to put more revenue on the table but through closing deductions, ending loopholes, not through raising rates. can you accept a compromise as part of this whole deal that doesn't raise the bush tax rate on the wealthy? >> well, here is the issue. how much revenue are we going to generate part of a balanced package? i take my lead on this from simpson-bowles and their framework. in their...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybri
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....